Session Start: Fri Apr 06 00:00:00 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[01:07]<zfedez> Hola
[01:08]<zfedez> A todos los extraños del mundo
[01:08]<zfedez> Em
[01:08]<zfedez> Chau
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Session Start: Fri Apr 06 03:05:08 2012 Session Ident: #glitchpc [03:05] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[03:05] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[09:18]<+camerongray> hey pottsi
[09:28]<+pottsi> hey camerongray
[09:28]<+camerongray> Who is your VPS with>
[09:29]<+pottsi> i have a few
[09:29]<+pottsi> most of them are with x10
[09:29]<+pottsi> what are you looking to pay?
[09:30]<+camerongray> Erm, as little as possible :
[09:30]<+camerongray> :P*
[09:30]<+camerongray> Paying ?3.30/mo for my shared hosting ATM
[09:30]<+camerongray> But it keeps failing for sometimes 10-15mins at a time
[09:31]<+pottsi> dang
[09:31]<+pottsi> well
[09:31]<+pottsi> i pay from $20 to ?100 pm for vps or dedi's
[09:32]<+camerongray> Ahh
[09:33]<+camerongray> hmm, this looks cheap: http://pyramidserver.com/
[09:33]<+camerongray> Pretty barebones with 256mb RAM but would be fine for a blog
[09:34]<+pottsi> x10 are good though
[09:34]<+pottsi> hmm
[09:34]<+pottsi> you need a control panel?
[09:34]<+pottsi> other than webmin
[09:34]<+pottsi> or stuff
[09:35]<+camerongray> Not much
[09:35]<+camerongray> Just so I can manage DBs
[09:35]<+camerongray> Shell access would be nice but I take it all VPSs offer that
[09:36]<+pottsi> yep
[09:36]<+pottsi> which package was you looking at?
[09:37]<+camerongray> Cheapest one :P
[09:37]<+camerongray> $36 a year or something
[09:37]<+camerongray> Works out at <?2 a month!
[09:38]<+pottsi> i could prob match that
[09:38]<+pottsi> but i need to brb first
[09:38]<+camerongray> But can I put up with their misuse of apostrophes?
[09:38]<+camerongray> They drive me mad!
[09:38]<+pottsi> poor grammar is never good
[09:40]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:40]<+camerongray> Sometimes I feel like carrying a pen and changing them :P
[09:43]<+camerongray> Hmm - will look at it later, have stuff to do
[09:44]<+camerongray> You and Tux better hide, Knowing me I'll get it, try to set it up, break something and come crying to you :P
[09:45]<@jacky> be back later...
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[09:46]<+pottsi> lol
[09:46]<+pottsi> what did you think of getting banned?
[09:47]<+camerongray> Funny story actually...
[09:48]<+camerongray> He unbanned me agian
[09:48]<+pottsi> offtopic again
[09:48]<+pottsi> that site looks shitty
[09:48]<+pottsi> ohv resellers
[09:48]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:48]<+camerongray> Found a few others
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[10:09]<@BC_Programming> roflmao
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> So yesterday I had the GALL to question that Steve was telling <me> how I should make my wallpapers
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> basically explained why it would be stupid to make a separate wallpaper for 800x600, 1024x768, etc
[10:10]<@BC_Programming> today he banned me again, haha
[10:11]<@Mulreay> wow
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> this is hilarious
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> it's a ban from even being able to view the forum
[10:11]<@BC_Programming> does he really think I can't work around that?
[10:11]<@Mulreay> I have that as well
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> yeah before it was just a ban but I could view the forums
[10:12]<@Mulreay> wouldn't mind but I have no idea why I am
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> 15 seconds later I can view the forums
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> poor steve
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> LOL looks like he completely deleted the entire topic where I gave him that GPC wallpaper
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> HE DID
[10:14]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:14]<@BC_Programming> HAHAHA
[10:15]<+camerongray> NOOO! Just as I settle to do some work BC turns up :P
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> lol camerongray are you banned again too?
[10:15]<@BC_Programming> this is hilarious
[10:16]<+camerongray> lol Yep!
[10:16]<@BC_Programming> HAHA
[10:16]<@BC_Programming> this is GOLD
[10:16]<@Mulreay> He's totally lost it
[10:16]<+camerongray> http://nqhost.com/cheap-vps.html - So.. Very& Tempted
[10:16]<+camerongray> Any OS install from ISO, that means I could put Windows 2008 R2 on!
[10:17]<+camerongray> Unless the disk space includes the OS
[10:17]<@BC_Programming> on what
[10:17]<+camerongray> http://nqhost.com/cheap-vps.html - Looking for a VPS
[10:17]<@BC_Programming> oh
[10:18]<@BC_Programming> actually I wonder if lazarus saved my post
[10:19]<@BC_Programming> I could pastebin it so you could see what I apparently did wrong
[10:19]<@Mulreay> cool
[10:20]<@BC_Programming> http://pastebin.com/4c2hz166
[10:20]<@BC_Programming> How dare I make him a 4:3 version as requested
[10:22]<@BC_Programming> look how many rules I broke with that one post!
[10:22]<@BC_Programming> oh wait I didn't break any at all did I
[10:23]<@Mulreay> You got banned for calmly explaining why you don't make multiple res?
[10:23]<@BC_Programming> it would seem so
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> Man I am finding this <hilarious>
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> the sad thing is that in a single blog page I think I outdid anything he could ever do as far as windows support with that "Windows Optimization tips" thing
[10:24]<@BC_Programming> perhaps he got jealous
[10:25]<@Mulreay> heh, knowing him it's very possible
[10:25]<@BC_Programming> "how dare he have a website that remains consistently the same in design and focus!"
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> well he sure taught me a lesson, showed me whose boss by banning me without providing a reason. Is "saying bad things about him" a reason for banning? I don't recall that being outlined in the rules
[10:26]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:26]<@BC_Programming> maybe he read the logs and didn't like me pointing out how his solution is far too frequently "did you install the drivers"
[10:27]<@Mulreay> lol
[10:27]<@Mulreay> or 'clear your cache'
[10:27]<@BC_Programming> that was an awesome CH thread though. he's going on to this person about reinstalling the drivers
[10:27]<@BC_Programming> the laptop fell on a USB drive and it snapped in half
[10:28]<@Mulreay> haha
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[10:28]<@BC_Programming> I believe there might be a new rule, "if you don't agree with me about everything, I ban u"
[10:29]<sonicrules1234> D:
[10:29]<@Mulreay> lol, I wouldn't be supprised if he slid it into the TOS
[10:29] * sonicrules1234 doesn't agree with BC_Programming about that rule
[10:29]<@BC_Programming> sonic: err.. no I was talking about GlitchPC.net, haha
[10:29]<sonicrules1234> Oh
[10:29]<sonicrules1234> Whew
[10:29]<@BC_Programming> lol
[10:29]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:33]<@BC_Programming> the funny thing is that if I was to mention anything about glitchPC on my site somewhere it would be higher in the search rankings than his, haha
[10:34]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:35]<+camerongray> lol
[10:36]<sonicrules1234> Didn't glitchpc come in and say sorry? Or were you guys not there for that?
[10:36]<@BC_Programming> I don't remember that. Unless it was long ago
[10:36]<sonicrules1234> Lemme see if I can find the logs
[10:37]<+camerongray> He's disappeared from Facebook now :P
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> my heart bleeds
[10:37]<@BC_Programming> hmm let's see glitchpc.net has 14 sites linking to it
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> bc-programming has 42
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> think I'm winning
[10:38]<+camerongray> "Calum Hodgetts: Crazy guy lol...I don't even know what to say"
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:38]<+camerongray> I told him how distraught you are!
[10:38]<@BC_Programming> haha
[10:39]<+camerongray> You're just sitting in the corner rocking back and forth slowly singing the My Little Pony song to yourself and sobbing
[10:39]<@Mulreay> Yeah, he unfriended me as well
[10:39]<+camerongray> Nooooooo!
[10:40]<@BC_Programming> cam: yeah but that has nothing to do with this, I do that every Friday
[10:40]<@Mulreay> lol
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> you know what I should do
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> I should totally link to his site
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> then it will be funny
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> ok actually it won't
[10:41]<+camerongray> lol
[10:41]<@BC_Programming> besides I'd have to deal with the CMS I wrote and that is annoying
[10:42]<sonicrules1234> Found it
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[10:42]<sonicrules1234> Mar 29 08:36:17 <GlitchPC> I'm only here to apologize to all for anything I may have said, or done to offend. I do not harbor any ill feelings toward anyone, nor do I even have a right to. Good luck to all with your endeavors. I am moving on...and I hope all of you do, as well. I will not return...
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[10:42]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: ^
[10:42]<+camerongray> I know how you feel BC, building a site in my own CMS
[10:43]<sonicrules1234> I guess GlitchPC was lucky I was paying attention
[10:43]<@BC_Programming> no not really
[10:43]<sonicrules1234> Aw
[10:44]<sonicrules1234> Well, since I have no idea what you guys are mad about, I might as well keep my mouth shut about it :P
[10:44] * sonicrules1234 goes on to build today's kindle fire cm9 build...
[10:44]<@Mulreay> were not mad
[10:44]<@BC_Programming> I'm not mad at him for anything
[10:45]<@BC_Programming> just confused as to why he would ban me from the forum, then unban me, than ban me again
[10:45]<sonicrules1234> Ah
[10:45]<@Mulreay> and I have no idea why I got banned.. may be just a proxy ban for knowing you guys
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> apparently the first ban was because "he read the logs"
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> yeah... I told him he should, wtf
[10:46]<@BC_Programming> I think he might have issued the second one because I didn't back him up when Salmon Trout said his advice was stupid on CH
[10:47]<@BC_Programming> a USB drive breaks in half, what is his solution? "Did you install the drivers"
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> Wait a second, he apologized... and yet, in his PM that he sent me on the GPC forum, he said "I don't ower anybody an apology" so this is a bit conflicting
[10:48]<sonicrules1234> :P
[10:48]<@BC_Programming> I actually think this whole thing is rather humourous to be honest
[10:48]<sonicrules1234> :P
[10:48]<@Mulreay> he gone bat shite crazy
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> Well, I'm just glad this channel exists
[10:49]<@BC_Programming> it's funny because the only posts I made on the forum so far were to try to help CBMatt and another one where I made a GlitchPC wallpaper in photoshop
[10:49]<sonicrules1234> It happens to be the one channel I stay in on the Mibbit network besides #bots
[10:50]<@BC_Programming> I guess he didn't like that the wallpaper I made for BC_Programming I spent 5 hours on while I only spent 3 hours on the GPC one
[10:50]<@BC_Programming> what nerve I have to be so selfish
[10:50]<@BC_Programming> heh
[10:51]<+camerongray> Oh yeah sonicrules1234 - Do you still play Minecraft?
[10:51]<@Mulreay> heh
[10:51]<sonicrules1234> camerongray: Recently, yes
[10:51]<+camerongray> You should come on the server again!
[10:51]<sonicrules1234> I've been playing with the tekkit pack
[10:51]<+camerongray> Cool
[10:51]<+camerongray> tux2mc.com
[10:51]<+camerongray> PLAY!
[10:51]<sonicrules1234> Nah
[10:51]<+camerongray> Aww!
[10:51]<sonicrules1234> Regular old mc is boring
[10:51]<+camerongray> But it's fun!
[10:51]<+camerongray> We have mods!
[10:51]<sonicrules1234> Even this tekkit pack is getting boring
[10:51]<@BC_Programming> I stopped using (client) mods at 1.8 myself
[10:52]<+camerongray> Aww
[10:52]<+camerongray> But the server has an economy
[10:52]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: Tekkit is mods that work for both server and client
[10:52]<+camerongray> A bit like spoutcraft?
[10:52]<@BC_Programming> only thing I don't like is that my cave spider experience machine doesn't work, keeps clogging up
[10:52]<sonicrules1234> It uses spoutcraft
[10:52]<+camerongray> ahh
[10:55]<+camerongray> You should try out tux's server at some point
[10:55]<@BC_Programming> at least my skeleton cannon works
[10:55]<+camerongray> We are bringing the old maps back tomorrow, Craig'sworld and the other one you played on
[10:55]<sonicrules1234> :o
[10:56]<sonicrules1234> Have you guys heard of mcnostalgia?
[10:56]<@Mulreay> Whoo hooo I can claim some gear back i have stowed
[10:56]<@BC_Programming> yes sonic
[10:56]<@BC_Programming> I don't know about anybody else but I do know you are the maintainer of it now afaik
[10:56]<sonicrules1234> BC_Programming: I wrote version 2 and up :D
[10:56]<sonicrules1234> Oh
[10:56]<sonicrules1234> xD
[10:57]<@BC_Programming> :P
[10:57]<sonicrules1234> Yay for somebody knowing :D
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> hey if the chests are unlocked could somebody grab some of my stuff from the old world too
[10:58]<@BC_Programming> I'll try to get on myself but haven't had much luck when I try
[10:59]<@Mulreay> I will np
[10:59]<@Mulreay> will put a 'BC' chest in my house
[11:00]<@Mulreay> chest(s)
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> yeah I have loads of crap in both the 1.8 world we have and the 1.7.3 world
[11:00]<@Mulreay> There will be a 20% handling fee of course
[11:00]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:01]<@BC_Programming> You could probably take half the diamonds and I'd never know :P
[11:01]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:01]<@Mulreay> would never do that
[11:01]<@Mulreay> will be recording it I think so you can always see what i did
[11:01]<@BC_Programming> cool
[11:02]<@BC_Programming> I recorded some of my single player world, still have to cut it and sync it
[11:02]<@Mulreay> sweet
[11:03]<+camerongray> Just claim BC's house and trust him
[11:03]<+camerongray> Or ask tux 2
[11:03]<+camerongray> tux to*
[11:04]<+camerongray> Can't wait for my old stuff - I had sooooo much wood in my shop!
[11:08]<@Mulreay> I think i had a few diamonds and what not
[11:09]<@Mulreay> new Ashens video is up
[11:11]<@Mulreay> Will have to go swimming in the pool
[11:12]<@BC_Programming> heh
[11:18]<+camerongray> How did I miss and Ashens video?
[11:18]<@BC_Programming> bad spelling
[11:19]<+camerongray> lol
[11:19]<@Mulreay> heh
[11:56]<@BC_Programming> http://onefte.com/comics-archive/2010-03-10-You-Want-What.png
[11:58]<@Mulreay> funny stuff here 'Txt's from a dog' http://textfromdog.tumblr.com/
[11:58]<@Mulreay> geg at yours BC_Programming
[11:58]<@Mulreay> geg? heh
[11:59]<@Mulreay> typing in the dark
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> lol
[11:59]<@BC_Programming> "where did you get the cape"
[12:02]<@Mulreay> funny stuff, made me smile
[12:02]<@BC_Programming> "We would like the white background to be a darker shade of white."
[12:05]<@BC_Programming> "Our in-house designer can do a lot of the work you do, so we?re going to start taking your contracts to him. What do you recommend we buy - Adobe or Photoshop?"
[12:05]<@Mulreay> lol
[12:05]<@Mulreay> who said that?
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> it's on here
[12:06]<@BC_Programming> http://clientsfromhell.net
[12:06]<@Mulreay> ahh
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[12:31]<@BC_Programming> "We would like to get notifications for unplanned outages 3-4 days in advance."
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> lol
[12:33]<@Mulreay> lol
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> A two page web site will cost X, four pages will be Y, and six pages will be Z
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> "how much will it be if it was double-sided"
[12:35]<@Mulreay> lol
[13:13]<@BC_Programming> "I?ve sent you a photo of the team to include in the brochure. Rob, the guy on the right, is wearing a horrible sweater though?can you just rub his sweater out in photoshop? And if he?s not wearing anything underneath, could you paint him a nice shirt?"
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[13:34]<+camerongray> Nat: Do you have a VPS?
[13:34]<Nat> nope
[13:35]<+camerongray> kk
[13:35]<Nat> i've got my own private serevr
[13:35]<+camerongray> Trying to find a cheap one
[13:35]<Nat> hmm
[13:35]<+camerongray> But I'm being fussy :P
[13:35]<Nat> hey Tux2, what VPS do you use?
[13:35]<+camerongray> He has linode afik
[13:36]<Nat> ah
[13:36]<+camerongray> More than I want to spend though
[13:36]<Nat> i've heard good things about x10VPS
[13:36]<+camerongray> Would like the option to install my own OS
[13:37]<+camerongray> Or cheap windows
[13:37]<+camerongray> But I already have Windows Server 2003, 2008 and 2008 R2 licences (Dreamspark FTW) so seems pointless paying for them
[13:38]<Nat> ew windows erevrs
[13:38]<+camerongray> lol - Could also do linux
[13:39]<+camerongray> Windows is easier to set up though :P
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> lol "Almost. I want less of a rectangle, and more of a long square."
[13:43]<+camerongray> lol
[13:43]<+camerongray> Tux2: I need help, VPSs are confuddling me
[13:43]<@Mulreay> haha
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[13:55]<@Mulreay> Making video 3
[14:10]<+camerongray> pottsi, I have a question :P
[14:11]<@Mulreay> I have many
[14:12]<@Mulreay> new video is rendering
[14:12]<+camerongray> lol
[14:19]<@BC_Programming> "How can I get a silvery image on my website like the ones on the front of Stephen King novels? I?ve tried scanning it in, but it just loses its reflective shine."
[14:20]<@Mulreay> wow, just wow
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> "Can you make it sound more purple?"
[14:20]<@BC_Programming> lol
[14:21]<@Mulreay> haha
[14:21]<@BC_Programming> ?We want a state of the art website with all the functions and everything, so how much do you think that will cost? please bear in mind we are Jewish.?
[14:21]<+camerongray> lol
[14:23]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:23]<@BC_Programming> "What? I have to pay? You should be called paidlancers then"
[14:24]<@Mulreay> haha
[14:24]<@BC_Programming> "I think the ice cream on the packaging looks too cold."
[14:24]<@Mulreay> OK stop it
[14:24]<@Mulreay> heh
[14:25]<+camerongray> keep going!
[14:25]<@BC_Programming> "I don?t know why you can?t do this for free. It?s not like it costs you anything."
[14:26]<@Mulreay> hah
[14:26]<@BC_Programming> ?In the interests of working together, I would appreciate it if you could do this free of charge.?
[14:28]<@BC_Programming> "We are on a bit of a rush for this one, I?m going into jail on Tuesday."
[14:32]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> "I don't start work until we agree on a contract"
[14:32]<@BC_Programming> "That's no way to do business"
[14:32]<@Mulreay> heh
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> "Your design was very racist"
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> "How so?"
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> "all the people are black"
[14:33]<@BC_Programming> "It's a silhoette"
[14:33]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> ?Your work is like a 4 yr old did it!?
[14:35]<@BC_Programming> ?Well.. you did request finger paint smears for the background.. Do you want me to make it look like a 5th grader did the smears instead??
[14:37]<@BC_Programming> "I don?t mean to brag, but I am quite good at coding the internet, so don't try any funny business"
[14:38]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:39]<@BC_Programming> "I'd love to pay you, but I just got my floors redone and it was really expensive, I'm sure you understand"
[14:40]<@Mulreay> haha
[14:40]<@BC_Programming> "I'm looking for a colour that is sort of black, and sorta white- like both at the same time. Can you do that?"
[14:41]<@Mulreay> Like grey?
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> heh
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> exactly
[14:42]<@BC_Programming> CLIENT:?Well I really like your enthusiasm and I?m very excited to use your content management system for my websites. How much is it? Can I use it for all my websites and blogs??
[14:42]<@BC_Programming> Freelancer: ?My content management system is $XXX per installation, so it will be that price for every website you choose to use with this CMS.?
[14:42]<@BC_Programming> Client: ?Oh? well, I?m retired.? -indicating the price is too high
[14:42]<@BC_Programming> Freelancer: ?I?m not.?
[14:43]<@Mulreay> heh
[14:43]<@BC_Programming> sounds like something I would say
[14:44]<@BC_Programming> "I don?t want to be limited by what?s physically possible"
[14:51]<@Mulreay> 'American is a language, because we spell color diffrent' I was told a while back.. my response 'So you think changing .01% of a language makes a new one? He never responded.
[14:51]<@Mulreay> different*
[14:56]<+Tux2> camerongray: I'll help you in about 45 minutes, have to go do something
[14:56]<+camerongray> kk
[14:56]<+camerongray> Going to be a long night :P
[15:12]<+Craig> Hey Cameron, Mulreay, and BC, how goes it?
[15:12]<+camerongray> Good
[15:12]<+Craig> Oh and Tux2
[15:12]<+camerongray> Trying to get a VPS and it's confusing me :P
[15:12]<@BC_Programming> hi Craig
[15:12]<+camerongray> Oh, Craig knows server stuff :P
[15:12]<+Craig> How is it confusing you?
[15:13]<@Mulreay> hello Craig
[15:13]<+Craig> What do you mean trying to get?
[15:13]<+Craig> And how is Mulreay and BC?
[15:13]<+camerongray> Looking into ordering one
[15:13]<+Craig> Ahh I see,
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> Craig did you hear that I got nominated for a Microsoft MVP award?
[15:13]<+camerongray> I'd like the option of Windows but all the windows ones are expensive!
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> I thought it was spam
[15:13]<+Craig> What do you need access too on the VPS there Cameron?
[15:13]<+Craig> Hahah Nice BC,
[15:13]<+Craig> What did you get it for?
[15:13]<@BC_Programming> No idea
[15:13]<+camerongray> Root access ideally
[15:14]<+camerongray> To host my site along with others
[15:14]<@Mulreay> being bc
[15:14]<+Craig> I can give you full SSH and FTP access to a VPS
[15:14]<+Craig> Ubuntu if you like, or just about any os really.
[15:14]<+camerongray> hmm, WOuld rather it was all my own though - I tend to break things :P
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[15:15]<+camerongray> Don't want to come here saying "I did something and now all your sites on the VPS are gone!"
[15:15]<+camerongray> :P
[15:15]<+Craig> Yeah I can give you a fully virtualized Private server
[15:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:15]<+camerongray> What specs?
[15:15]<@BC_Programming> wait if you get a VPS can't you install your own OS
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[15:15]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:16]<+camerongray> I'll probably try like 10 OSs until I find one :P
[15:16]<+camerongray> I like the idea of Windows 2003 since I have a licence
[15:16]<+Craig> 3.2Ghz, 1 or 2 cores, with 512 - 1Gb ram
[15:16]<+camerongray> Nice!
[15:16]<+camerongray> Where's it hosted?
[15:16]<+Craig> My house?
[15:17]<+camerongray> As long as the uptime is good
[15:17]<@Mulreay> heh, was going to say 'with Craig'
[15:17]<@Mulreay> Chanbot is hosted with him... he's always here
[15:17]<+camerongray> Good point
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[15:18]<+camerongray> Craig: What sort of control do I have, Is there a web based control panel and can I install my own OS whenever I want
[15:18]<+Craig> Hahaha thanks for the Votes of confidence
[15:19]<+Craig> no there would not be,
[15:19]<+Craig> sadly,
[15:19]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:19]<@Mulreay> Hey I said nice things
[15:20]<+camerongray> How many other VPSs do you run?
[15:20]<@Mulreay> If my name was Steve I would just ban you all and be done with it
[15:20]<+Craig> 1
[15:20]<+camerongray> lol
[15:20]<+camerongray> hmm - I'd probably rather have a control panel
[15:20]<+camerongray> For when I break things!
[15:20]<@Mulreay> He does break things to be fair
[15:21]<@Mulreay> Especially in Minecraft
[15:21]<+camerongray> lol
[15:21]<@BC_Programming> or burn down creepers
[15:21]<@BC_Programming> heh
[15:21]<@Mulreay> I'm thinking we should call camerongray the 'flaming torch' from now on
[15:21]<+camerongray> Ahh memories
[15:21]<+camerongray> Need to find the IRC log of that moment
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> yeah you were all in capitals
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> OMG SO SORRY
[15:24]<@BC_Programming> and I was like "meh"
[15:24]<@Mulreay> camerongray on the enterprsie Geordie: 'Captain the warp core is on fire!' Picard: 'That's not even possible' Geordie: 'We have camerongray here on work experience' Picard: 'oh balls'!
[15:24]<+camerongray> yeah
[15:24]<+camerongray> hahahaha
[15:25]<@BC_Programming> "he's managed to set fire to subspace"
[15:25]<@Mulreay> lol
[15:26]<@Mulreay> Said with effection of course camerongray
[15:26]<+camerongray> lol
[15:28]<@BC_Programming> OMG finally got a message from that fella I'm working for on freelancer
[15:29]<+camerongray> Actually Craig - Would you be able to install Win 2003 on that VM if I sent you the licence key?
[15:29]<+Craig> no sadly my VM's are all headless.
[15:29]<@Mulreay> License key? What is that?
[15:29]<+camerongray> lol
[15:29]<+camerongray> Ahh hmm
[15:30]<+camerongray> Can't you VNC into them, like the server the bots were on?
[15:30]<+Craig> I am sure you could if you setup VNC before moving it to the Headless server, but I have no need for that since I use Ubuntu Server for everything
[15:31]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:31]<+camerongray> hmm
[15:31]<+camerongray> If I say got either Ubuntu or CentOS, would I be able to set up custom name servers and point all my domains over?
[15:31]<+Craig> So in essence yes, I could install Server 2003 if you like, and I could setup a VNC controller on it before hand.
[15:32]<+Craig> Yes if you give me a list of your domains so I can redirect port 80 to them
[15:32]<+camerongray> I was planning on installing ZPanel
[15:32]<@Mulreay> Happy Easter btw Craig not sure if you should 'happy' but he did come back so yey
[15:32]<+Craig> heh
[15:32]<+Craig> Thanks Mulreay
[15:33]<+camerongray> hmm
[15:34]<+Craig> Anyone wanna play some terraria?
[15:34]<+camerongray> What would you recommend? I'd ideally want to be able to add new domains through a control panel and point them to a name server for the VPS
[15:35]<+Craig> I would go with a managed solution, what I am offering will not work unless you were willing to wait mere hours for me to update the domain redirects.
[15:35]<+camerongray> Hmm
[15:36]<+camerongray> I'm not bothered about time, just need good uptime and a way so I can simply point domains to it
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> thank you visual studio for storing only 5 bloody recent projects
[15:36]<@Mulreay> I'm sooo gonna do this at your wedding 'Can anyone give any reason why these two should not be joined in matrimony?' 'Yes as we have many questions about his VNC server'.
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[15:36]<+camerongray> lol
[15:36]<+Craig> hahaha
[15:37]<+Craig> Well, unless my internet craps out, the uptime is nigh 99%
[15:37]<+camerongray> Standing at the alter, Craig's phone goes, "CRAIG! I CLICKED THE BIG BUTTON NEXT TO THE OTHER BIG BUTTON AND THE SERVER DOESN'T WORK"
[15:37]<+Craig> It usually only dies when A: I break something major, B: Restart the server, or C: Accidentally kick a power supply.
[15:37]<+Craig> hahahaha
[15:37]<+Craig> HAHAHAHHAAH
[15:37]<@Mulreay> lol
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> I seriously want to go to redmond and find the person that thought "you know, let's only save the last 5 projects that were opened" so I can punch them in the nose
[15:39]<@Mulreay> Oh Craig it would only take us 16hrs to get to BC_Programming's house... cane we?
[15:39]<@Mulreay> can*
[15:39]<@Mulreay> joking of course
[15:40]<@Mulreay> kinda
[15:40]<+camerongray> Woo, found a cheap VPS and I get a free german domain :P
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> well this is going to be fun to explain to them
[15:40]<+Craig> We could actually if you came out on the right day. :) I've driven to Manitoba for a similar reason, to visit my Grandma, those visits usually last a day?
[15:40]<@BC_Programming> "I'd love to work on the project but I lost it"
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> that just screams professionalism don't it
[15:41]<+camerongray> That would be awesome if you went to BC :P
[15:42]<+Craig> hahaha
[15:42]<@Mulreay> 16hrs there and 16hrs back would be a lot... I could pay for us both to fly though... mmm 1 day trip to and from nanaimo
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> the sad thing is I know it's on my hard drive I just have no idea where
[15:44]<@Mulreay> I would just go there run to his front door... knock on it and when he answered shake his hand and run off... then when I get back home I tell you that random guy was me... but I've spoilet the suprise
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> LOL
[15:44]<+camerongray> OR fly back from nanaimo!
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> Nanaimo's airport is small, not international I don't think
[15:44]<+camerongray> Ahh
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> it's basically just a few runways in a field
[15:45]<@Mulreay> I think I will be in Canada for 3-4 days so not enough time... as Craig has to show me the mountains.. and bears
[15:45]<Nat> and the maple tress
[15:45]<Nat> *trees
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[15:46]<@Mulreay> We don't get hung over with Maple stuff like you guys
[15:46]<+Craig> d heh
[15:47]<@BC_Programming> OK seriously how do I have like 5 different, completely different projects that do the exact same bloody thing and absolutely no idea which one I had decided was the final version
[15:49]<@Mulreay> Is 'red deer' airport the one I need Craig?
[15:49]<+camerongray> Hmm, what do you think of this VPS? http://x10vps.com/self-managed-vps.php
[15:49]<+camerongray> The S1 one
[15:49]<@Mulreay> I may be sleeping on your sofa BC_Programming if I turn up at the wrong airport
[15:49]<+Craig> You would need YYC or Calgary, as those are the international ones
[15:50]<@Mulreay> oh ok
[15:50]<@Mulreay> Which one is closer?
[15:50]<+Craig> Well Calgary and Edmonton are the same distance really. :)
[15:50]<@Mulreay> ok
[15:50]<+Craig> So if you visit BC< then fly to Calgary I would pick you up there.
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> I may have to resort to downloading the version of the program I uploaded for them last, losing the changes that fix the very bugs they describe
[15:52]<@Mulreay> Looking at the prices I'm coming to yours... what was the wedding date again in aug?
[15:52]<@Mulreay> Sorry I do have it written down
[15:52]<@Mulreay> just looking
[15:54]<@Mulreay> Can't find it
[15:54]<+Craig> Aug 10
[15:54]<@Mulreay> I have like 20 pads
[15:54]<@Mulreay> thx
[15:54]<+Craig> :P
[15:54]<+Craig> No worries
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> I rather love freelancer's completely idiotic messaging system
[15:56]<@BC_Programming> I rather love how it only shows you that you have new messages two weeks after you received them
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[15:57]<@Mulreay> Wow ?599 if I flew now which is do-able.. in Aug ?1199 which is not
[15:58]<@Mulreay> Will find something
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> Sorry sidetracked here in thought
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> why would a recent items list be limited to 5 files
[15:58]<+Craig> Yeah that is quite a difference.
[16:00]<@Mulreay> Will find something I'm sure closer to the time
[16:01]<@BC_Programming> well almost all my flash drives have the project but they are all old and bloody useless
[16:01]<@BC_Programming> I think it might have been on the failed hard drive
[16:01]<@Mulreay> But I can't spend (don't have) ?1000 ($1582) on a flight
[16:02]<+Craig> I believe it
[16:02]<@Mulreay> I could start walking
[16:03]<@BC_Programming> lol
[16:04]<@Mulreay> Wouldn't be so bad if it was like a 2 week holiday but 4 days... too much
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> I'm starting to lose patience
[16:04]<@Mulreay> sorry
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> lol
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> not you
[16:04]<@Mulreay> oh
[16:04]<@BC_Programming> can't find the project
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> my client has a bloody newer version of the program than I do
[16:05]<@Mulreay> which client?
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> it's for a text difference viewer like windiff
[16:05]<@BC_Programming> not the bcjobclock one that one's closed and done
[16:05]<@Mulreay> oh k
[16:05]<+Craig> What I need is another contract like I was getting with Home Depot. :P 3000-8000 a month. :p
[16:06]<@Mulreay> wow nice
[16:06]<@BC_Programming> But it's ok because I appear to have old versions of the project strewn all over the place that have nothing to distinguish them from one another
[16:06]<@BC_Programming> I literally have to build and run each one and try to find the proper one
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[16:07]<@BC_Programming> silly my I originally thought "well golly gee it was relatively recent it should be in the recent list"
[16:08]<@Mulreay> One thing that I have decided is that I will NEVER be a programmer.. I will always be what I started out to be either an Artist or an Engineer... I'm just crap at programming
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> but some idiot decided that we only need 5 items in the recent list so it dropped off the bottom
[16:08]<@BC_Programming> and now I have no idea where it is
[16:09]<@BC_Programming> what makes it worse is that he mentioned a few problems in the version I uploaded and I know for a fact I fixed those problems
[16:09]<@BC_Programming> also this touchpad is not helping my mood
[16:09]<@Mulreay> But I can draw you a picture or build you a chair to sit on when you paint it
[16:10]<@BC_Programming> touchpad: I see you're typing, Here let me click randomly and change the window focus and make you start typing somewhere else.
[16:10]<+Craig> Well guys,
[16:10]<@BC_Programming> while typing that exactly what I describe happened like 4 times, haha
[16:10]<+Craig> its time for me to go eat some turkey
[16:10]<+Craig> :P
[16:10]<+Craig> laterz all.
[16:10]<@Mulreay> later
[16:11]<@Mulreay> Thought you were a vegan?
[16:11]<+Craig> Good luck Mulreay, :) It would be great to have you there, but you are not honor bound. :)
[16:11]<+Craig> I am vegan when it is convenient, and non offensive. :)
[16:11]<@Mulreay> heh, selective
[16:11]<+Craig> Pretty much. :)
[16:11]<+Craig> laters
[16:11]<@Mulreay> Have a good day bud
[16:12]<@Mulreay> I'm a selective thinkist
[16:13]<@BC_Programming> you know those times where you are so pissed off you have to throw something for some reason
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> I'm at that point and my reasoning of "wtf would that accomplish" doesn't seem to help
[16:14]<@Mulreay> Like a sybling or a chair?
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> all because I can't find a bloody folder
[16:14]<@Mulreay> bcsearch?
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> or rather I can find the project but it's about a million different copies of old versions
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> I wouldn't know what to search for
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> aside from .sln files
[16:14]<@BC_Programming> was thinking that as a last resort because I'd have to search the entire drive
[16:19]<@Mulreay> I don't really have anything to do as the video is not even 50% rendered
[16:19]<@BC_Programming> I need to calm down
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I'm like right on the brink of doing something I'd regret like throwing this laptop across the room which undoubtedly would not be a positive addition to this
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> I'm not even sure why I find this so incredibly aggravating
[16:22]<@Mulreay> You could always do what I do... walk away from the thing that is annoying you, grab a drink or some food and sit in another room.. come back and if like me then beat 10 levels of living shite out of it
[16:23]<@BC_Programming> I think that's the problem though, for one thing freelancer.com apparently decided to wait two god damned weeks to tell me that I had a message
[16:24]<@Mulreay> That's messed up
[16:24]<@BC_Programming> today I check it, and it says I have one message, so I go "oh cool, he's back" and I find out that the "new" message is in fact a third message basically asking why I haven't responded to the other messages sent almost two weeks ago
[16:24]<@Mulreay> wow
[16:24]<@BC_Programming> and I've been there like every day
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> silly me I would load the page, see that it said I had no new messages and go "damn" and leave
[16:25]<@Mulreay> Have you told (him).
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> yeah I replied
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> it'll probably be fine though, since he made me wait two weeks before that, heh
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> which is part of the reason I cannot find the project anymore
[16:28]<@BC_Programming> lol I think I may have found it
[16:29]<@Mulreay> heh cool
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> it's funny because BCSearch found it in less than a second
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> I think it's the one, it's bigger than all the others
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> yes this is the latest version
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> yay
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[17:06]<@Mulreay> Dog is doing my head in..
[17:12]<+Craig> ).o Ouch?
[17:12]<+Craig> 0.o Ouch?>
[17:13]<@BC_Programming> I hate bugs that aren't bugs
[17:13]<+Craig> Oh?
[17:13]<@BC_Programming> the comparer comparing one file to another looks awful, and it says that a lot of lines from the first were deleted
[17:13]<+Craig> does that make them mamals
[17:13]<+Craig> ?
[17:13]<@BC_Programming> thing is everything it says is totally accurate
[17:13]<@BC_Programming> it's just not what a person would think when they compare the files
[17:14]<+Craig> hmmm
[17:14]<@BC_Programming> it's funny because it looks fine comparing the files in the other direction
[17:14]<@BC_Programming> that is comparing B to A rather than A to B
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[18:23]<+pottsi> BC_Programming you know tcl?
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[18:45]<@BC_Programming> tcl no not really
[18:46]<+pottsi> :( k
[18:46]<@Mulreay> What do you need?
[18:47]<@Mulreay> It's the one time that I know something..
[18:47]<+pottsi> heh
[18:47]<+pottsi> i need to be able to grep a nick from a text file
[18:47]<+pottsi> and echo the nick and everything else on that one line
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[18:52]<@Mulreay> oh.. .. mmm I just get bots to talk... !seen jacky is your best bet... like I have said I'm shite at this stuff. If you have a bot that needs elocution lessons I'm your man
[18:53]<+pottsi> yeah i've mailed jacky
[18:53]<+pottsi> i've done most of it
[18:53]<+pottsi> just need to catch
[18:53]<+pottsi> and grep a file
[18:53]<@Mulreay> grepping is probably with... oh balls BC_Programming what was he called?
[18:54]<@BC_Programming> RalphSpencer
[18:54]<@Mulreay> heh yeah that's the guy
[18:54]<Nat> grep in tcl?
[18:54]<Nat> from what i remember because tcl is a shell of sorts, you can actualy just straight up call grep and save its outputs to a variable
[18:54]<Nat> you would just need grep runnable on the shell
[18:55]<@BC_Programming> I think it has a RegExp and regsub function... things
[18:55]<+pottsi> Nat
[18:55]<Nat> yeah?
[18:56]<+pottsi> i have a list of users and a string in a text fike ( with eggdrop)
[18:56]<+pottsi> on a trigger i need it to check the file
[18:56]<+pottsi> grep the nick and echo what's on that one linr
[18:56]<Nat> oh damn, i used to have something like that on my old eggdrop bot
[18:57]<+pottsi> http://mibpaste.com/P0ptwR
[18:57]<+pottsi> that's not grepping
[18:57]<+pottsi> i;ve no idea how to do it
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[19:07]<@Mulreay> I think calling the videos 'Minecraft Mayhem' kinda makes sence when you see the stuff we had to do
[19:07]<@BC_Programming> they would have been more amusing if I had been there
[19:07]<@BC_Programming> I mean that drkbob I think it was was all
[19:08]<@Mulreay> It would have gone from awesome to amazing
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> "OK everybody always put torches on the right"
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> and I would have said "YES SIR" and placed torches on the left
[19:08]<Nat> pottsi, i can't find the code
[19:08]<Nat> BC_Programming: and then i would have proceeded to punch you in the face
[19:08]<@Mulreay> nat is drkabob BC_Programming
[19:08]<@BC_Programming> and if anybody said anything I would have turned around and said "but it is on my right!"
[19:08]<+pottsi> :( no worries, thanks anyway
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[19:09]<@BC_Programming> oh right, one problem would have been that I would have had very little to start with too
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[19:09]<@BC_Programming> I'd probably have died a lot since I'm used to my enchanted diamond armor
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> also I would have been purposely reckless for amusement purposes
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> "This goes down really far"
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> "let's see" *jumps*
[19:11]<@Mulreay> heh
[19:11] * @BC_Programming hit the ground to hard
[19:11]<@BC_Programming> "yes it's far"
[19:11]<@Mulreay> lol
[19:13]<@BC_Programming> or "there are lots of spiders in there"
[19:13]<@BC_Programming> "I'll count them!"
[19:13]<@Mulreay> heh
[19:13] * @BC_Programming BC_Programming was killed by a spider
[19:13]<@BC_Programming> there's lots
[19:13]<@Mulreay> haha
[19:14]<@Mulreay> Need to prep the next video so it can render over night... can't wait again
[19:15]<@BC_Programming> I should cut the one I made in my SSP
[19:15]<@Mulreay> That lad who is constantly making sound in the first video will NEVER get in a record again
[19:16]<@Mulreay> Not me
[19:16]<@BC_Programming> that sounded like penguin42 or whomever it was from that one we did before
[19:16]<@Mulreay> I think it was Falkenzz
[19:17]<@BC_Programming> I would have occasionally said "OMG u gais I found something"
[19:17]<@BC_Programming> "what?"
[19:17]<@BC_Programming> "STONE! It's everywhere!"
[19:17]<@BC_Programming> "I found some dirt! It was underneath those diamonds I threw in the lava"
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[19:18]<@Mulreay> lol
[19:23]<@BC_Programming> I probably wouldn't have done that thing where somebody else finds something and I repeat it like I found it though, that's old hat
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